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1 Upgrading on Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:07 am

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I just tried to upgrade 205 weapon once again. I used 20 gold argates and got it +5 once Smile otherwise it failed to +1, +2 and +3 all the time, how is that ****ing possible... I mean like what is the percent to success from +8 to +9 o.o if you can fail to +1 like 3-4 times in a row :/

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2 Re: Upgrading on Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:20 pm

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5%


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3 Re: Upgrading on Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:44 pm

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5% i laugh at that rate :3 cause i can



i am bored

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4 Re: Upgrading on Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:59 pm

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Oishi wrote:5%

5%? It's supposed to be 12%!
Even if we use talis it will be almost impossible/too hard to make a +9. Sad

This means we need lots of ARGATES!

-Considering that we need to save 150GOLD ARGATES for the 2nd Wing. sigh

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5 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:18 am

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well just think it from the GM's view, you have alot thing to do, and its more entertaining working towards your Item's , the reason they cost golds is cause its a better currency than CV's and can be used for plenty of thing.

but i guess 5% isnt a good rate i agree but its so everyone earn's everything evenly. So work hard.

An enjoy it makes the game entertaining :3

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6 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:45 am

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This means I really need a lot of time farming on argates and votes for talis Very Happy

BTW, Thanks for the DIL yesterday. Smile

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7 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:16 am

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Aye no worries, and good luck

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8 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:18 am

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BTT > Will there be a chance to change the rates?

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9 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:29 am

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Flix wrote:
5%? It's supposed to be 12%!
Is it? Supposed to be compared to what? I took the argating rates directly from a3 2moons files. So, unless the rates were already tampered with, they're what they're advertised to be.
Flix wrote:
Even if we use talis it will be almost impossible/too hard to make a +9. Sad

Let's do some math. Let's say "impossible" is 0%.
0%+18%=18%
With a tali you still have an 18% chance of success so even if it was "impossible" to begin with which makes it impossible to be impossible. In addition, 18% chance away from impossible is a pretty good ways away from impossible. Look at it from a life or death perspective; I'd take 18% chance increase in survival rate from 0% chance any day.

But it's not impossible to begin with. You have a 5% chance of going +9.
5%+18%=23%
With a tali it is 23% which is almost 1 in 4 +8 weapons that will go +9.

Flix wrote:This means we need lots of ARGATES
Depends on your definition of "a lot".

In any case, you're not even obligated to farm argates at all. So, if you really don't want to argate, you don't have to. You can spend the majority of the time you would spent argating to merchant and make enough profit to just outright buy your gear from people.

Flix wrote:BTT > Will there be a chance to change the rates?
That's up to soapy


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10 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:13 am

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Oishi wrote:
Is it? Supposed to be compared to what? I took the argating rates directly from a3 2moons files. So, unless the rates were already tampered with, they're what they're advertised to be.
I compared it on other Pserver. It’s not included on the server information that’s why I supposed it’s the same here.


Oishi wrote:
Let's do some math. Let's say "impossible" is 0%.
0%+18%=18%
With a tali you still have an 18% chance of success so even if it was "impossible" to begin with which makes it impossible to be impossible. In addition, 18% chance away from impossible is a pretty good ways away from impossible. Look at it from a life or death perspective; I'd take 18% chance increase in survival rate from 0% chance any day.

But it's not impossible to begin with. You have a 5% chance of going +9.
5%+18%=23%
With a tali it is 23% which is almost 1 in 4 +8 weapons that will go +9.

I’m not saying its IMPOSSIBLE, I said “ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE/HARD”

Oishi wrote:
Depends on your definition of "a lot".
1st. Need to save 150 golds argates for the next wing
2nd Need to save more to upgrade items/gear/weapon

*I’ve seen most 200+ in game doesn’t have the 2nd wing yet

Oishi wrote:
In any case, you're not even obligated to farm argates at all. So, if you really don't want to argate, you don't have to. You can spend the majority of the time you would spent argating to merchant and make enough profit to just outright buy your gear from people.
Wew! What a nice idea from “GM”

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11 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:50 am

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well i have atm 119 golds, and mania owe's me 22. so ill be getting myn soon. argates arnt hard to get really you just need some patience.

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12 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:04 am

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I’ve been in crespo > draco > ava > aqua = 2 copper argates.
Well maybe I think some other higher maps dops much more. Am I correct?

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13 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:20 am

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yer, such as Ardeca and Fantasy or VIP island.
But you dont need argates until your a high lvl.
i suggest just collect what ever you can since your a low lvl atm, than once your a high lvl start trying to get alot, worry about your lvl before argates


well that my opinion

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14 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:21 pm

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Got it. Thanks!

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15 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:03 pm

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Flix wrote:
I compared it on other Pserver. It’s not included on the server information that’s why I supposed it’s the same here.

And no, I didn't just put that in there. It's been there since the server has been online.

Flix wrote:
I’m not saying its IMPOSSIBLE, I said “ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE/HARD”
And I didn't say you did say it was impossible. I was saying let's go ahead and assume it was impossible and I was just saying that saying "almost impossible" is better than you seem to make it out to be.

Flix wrote:Wew! What a nice idea from “GM”
Not sure if that was sarcasm or what.


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16 Re: Upgrading on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:50 pm

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clown ok clown

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